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Post  nacre667 on Mon Jul 27, 2009 5:08 pm

my grix deck is as so:
viscera dragger
dregscape zombie x2
kathari bomber
shore snapper
blood cultist
skeletal kathari
scavenger drake
grixis grimblade x2
viashino skeleton
stalking vengeance
entropic eidolon
lich lord of unx
deathbringer thoctar
enigma eidolon
bog wraith
rakka mar
lightning reaver
sedraxis specter
zombie outlander
salvage titan
sewn-eye drake

mistvein borderpost
mask of riddles
veinfire borderpost
scepter of insight
ferropede
mamgma spray
everlasting torment
soul manipulation x2
demonic tutor
yoke of the damned
cancel
terminate
brainbite
blightning
volcanic fallout
mind funeral
call to heel

swamp x6
island x7
mountain x7
barren moor
grixis panorama
terramorphic expanse x2
rupture spire


thinking about adding:
phantom warrior
mind control
ice cage
lightning bolt
spell book
duress
rise from the grave
consume spirit
dread warock
disentomb
(i'm going to remove all of my artifacts)

i obvious need help with this please
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Post  Haatweels on Mon Jul 27, 2009 5:37 pm

1 Viscera Dragger
1 Dregscape Zombie
1 kathari bomber This is more jund... even though it has unearth
1 Shore Snapper
1 Blood Cultist <== Add more. if you don't have any, add Rakdos Ickspitters
1 Skeletal Kathari
1 Scavenger Drake - more jund, but useable
2 Grixis Grimblade
1 Viashino skeleton
1 Stalking Vengeance
1 Entropic Eidolon <== These are Terrible
1 Lich Lord of Unx
1 Deathbringer Thoctar
1 Enigma Eidolon <== See Entropic Eidolon
1 Bog wraith Most of the time, this is a vanilla 3/3 for 4. Too slow.
1 Rakka Mar
1 Lightning Reaver
1 Sedraxis Specter <-- More
1 Zombie Outlander Only useful 20% of the time
1 Salvage TitanFlat out doesn't belong
1 Sewn-eye drake <-- More of this would be good
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Add some other fast stuff, like shambling remains
Up the amount of your good cards
Add support for Zombies, such as from cemetary reaper. You have a good amount of them
Up the amount of your small stuff
Add more deathtouchers
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1 Mistvein Borderpost
1 Mask of Riddles <-- not worth it =P (too slow)
1 Veinfire Borderpost
1 scepter of insight <-- not worth it =P (too slow)
1 Ferropede <-- Not good in aggro, not even THAT useful in control
1 Magma Spray
1 Everlasting Torment
2 Soul manipulation
1 Demonic tutor
1 Yoke of the damned <-- Good for MP2 Play as unearth support
1 Cancel
1 Terminate
1 brainbite <-- That's not fast enough
1 Blightning
1 volcanic fallout <-- Good counter/ burnoff
1 mind funeral <-- Yes! But only if you're centering it around control more
1 call to heel <-- Switch for Unsummon

6 Swamp <-- +1 or add crumbling necropolis (you already have your 2 borderposts)
7 Island
7 Mountain
1 Barren moor <-- Crumbling Necropolis
1 grixis panorama <-- Too slow
2 Terramorphic Expanse <-- Too slow a card for grixis
1 rupture spire <-- You really don't need this much mana


thinking about adding:
phantom warrior <-- Decent
mind control <--Use slave of bolas
ice cage Not awful, consider it after changes
lightning bolt ]DEFINATELY[ x4 it if possible
spell book [DEFINATELY NOT]
duress <-- yeah that could work
rise from the grave <--Mmm risky
consume spirit <-- since it's 1/3 black, no
dread warock <--Sure, but phantom is better
disentomb <--Decent, but not GREAT
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Post  nacre667 on Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:16 pm

is it a good thing if i add 2 more Grixis Grimblade, and 2 Grixis Sojourners?
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Post  Haatweels on Mon Jul 27, 2009 10:13 pm

For the price of sojourners you can get firefield ogre >.>
a 4/2 first strike unearth or a 4/3 with a horrible ability
Ur choice =P

Get some tidehollow strixes in there
very good removal
2/1 instakiller, plus it has uses as a backup attacker since it hits for 2

thats an afirmative on the grimblade
if u wanna go for that zombie archtype, i can help
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Re: Grix deck help

Post  nacre667 on Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:37 pm

i don't have any Fire-Field Ogres
i did add another Lich Lord of Unx
should i add 2 Dreadwings in place of Viashino Skeleton and Scavenger Drake?
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Post  yukirukun on Tue Jul 28, 2009 10:44 pm

I have Fire-Field Ogre. Maybe a trade is in order?!?!
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Post  Haatweels on Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:49 pm

I also have an ogre

But don't overweigh your 1/1s

Dread wing isn't bad, but it's easily killed. Definitely over the skeleton, but think hard about the drake.
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Post  yukirukun on Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:29 am

Maybe you want Skeletal Vampire just because I don't need him anymore?
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Post  Haatweels on Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:18 pm

Skeletal is good Very Happy
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Post  yukirukun on Wed Jul 29, 2009 8:14 pm

Very Happy Bat tokens ftw
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Post  Haatweels on Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:24 pm

VAMPIRE WITH NO BLOOD OR ORGANS FTW
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Post  yukirukun on Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:25 pm

GET MALFEGOR FOR YOUR DECk
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Post  Haatweels on Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:25 pm

OR HIS NARSTIE BRETH
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Post  yukirukun on Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:29 pm



^ PROOF OF MALFEGOR'S POWER
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Post  Haatweels on Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:32 pm

MOAR LIKE

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Post  yukirukun on Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:33 pm

Ew, wtf is that? He's not a horse, he's a dragon @_@
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Re: Grix deck help

Post  nacre667 on Fri Jul 31, 2009 11:50 pm

lol
well here is my new grix deck:
Fire-Field Ogre
Hellhole Rats
Rakka Mar
Blood Tyrant
Grixis Battlemage
Sedraxis Specter
Dregscape Zombie x2
Blood Cultists
Grixis Grimblade
Cemetery Reaper x4
Rakdos Ickspitter
Archdemon of Unx
Lich Lord of Unx x2
Deathbringer Thoctar
Rakdos Guildmage
Phantom Warrior
Lightning Reaver
Grixis Sojourners
Scavenger Drake

Mistvein Borderpost
Veinfire Borderpost
Disentomb
Mind Funeral
Unsummon
Plunge into Darkness
Volcanic Fallout
Brainbite
Terminate
Yoke of the Damned
Lighting Bolt
Soul Manipulation x2
Slave of Bolas
Duress
Magma Spray
Cancel
Everlasting Torment
Blightning
Demonic Tutor

8 swamps
7 mountains
7 islands
1 Crumbling Necropolis
1 Rupture Spire
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Post  Haatweels on Sat Aug 01, 2009 2:18 pm

You have 26 mana sources, just putting that out there
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Post  nacre667 on Wed Aug 05, 2009 12:52 pm

lol
well i'm gonna re-build my grix deck and i could use some help
the main problem is i'm re-building it how momo built his green wolf deck and i don't really know how to do it
can someone help me please?
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Post  Haatweels on Wed Aug 05, 2009 12:55 pm

http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=186327

Edit: Also, he just did it according to the card categories.

There's a few ways to organize your deck when editing to help you accompish what you're trying to in the fastest and most efficient means

By Converted Mana Cost

This method works to try to either make your deck faster of slower. Lay out all your lands and sort by converted mana cost. If you're playing aggro, then you want probably no more than 5 at most 6 drops or more. 5 drops are pushing it, but it's a bomb, you want about 5 (for example, Lightning Reaver). An aggro deck should have 12-16 Removal cards and/or counter (for example, lightning bolt, magma spray, and countersquall. ) It's wise to put more than one copy of a card a good and mana efficient as lightning bolt, but probably not the best idea to put in 4 Blood tyrants.

By Color

If you're having trouble with mana balance, group everything by color. In a deck with black as the main color, for example, maybe cryptic command isn't the best choice if you're only splashing blue. This helps organize the mana base. You want to maintain at very minimum a 2:1 ratio. For example, if you have 14 blue and 14 black and 8 red, you want AT LEAST 7 of each blue and black mana and AT LEAST (dual and tri mana help) 4 Red, although to run only 4 sources of something is risky. Remember that a Crumbling Necropolis counts for one of each.

By Power/Toughness

If you're getting beat time and time again by raw force, maybe it's time to consider what types of creatures you're putting in. Too many small creatures can be just as dangerous as too many large ones. Do it in moderation
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I hope this helped Very Happy


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Post  nacre667 on Wed Aug 05, 2009 1:01 pm

OK THANKS
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Post  Haatweels on Wed Aug 05, 2009 2:45 pm

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Post  nacre667 on Wed Aug 05, 2009 3:02 pm

Kederekt Creeper
Fire-Field Ogre x2
Grixis Grimblade x4
Hellhole Rats
Deathbringer Thoctar
Rakdos Ickspitter
Rakdos Guildmage
Blood Cultist
Rakka Mar
Kathari Screecher x2
Lich Lord of Unx x2
Cemetery Reaper
Archdemon of Unx

19

Soul Manipulation x2
Unsummon
Cancel
Terminate
Magma Spray
Lightning Bolt
Volcanic Fallout
Grixis Charm
Shock x2
Agony Warp
Contersquall
Terror
Blightning
Duress
Disentomb
Demonic Tutor
Mind Funeral
Infest

21

3 Crumbling Necropolis
2 Rupture Spire
5 Mountains
5 Islands
6 Swamps

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extra cards:
Blood Tyrant
Elder Mastery
Pestilent Kathari
Grixis Battlemage
Grixis Slavedriver
edit:
Grixis Sojourners
Viscera Dragger
Ice Cage
Sewn-Eye Drake
Dreadwing
Stalking Vengeance
Sedraxis Alchemist
Dregscape Zombie
Scavenger Drake
Phantom Warrior
Yoke of the Damned
Plunge into Darkness
Brainbite
Slave of Bolas
Everlasting Torment
Traumatize
Mistvein Borderpost
Veinfire Borderpost
Exotic Orchard

anybetter?
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Post  Admin Momo on Wed Aug 05, 2009 3:40 pm

Nick, you're doing really well, it is pretty good so far, HOWEVER, you have too many useless not-creature cards. Gtfo with Duress and Mind Funeral. I have another Blood Cultist if you want it. Having more than one Blood Cultist on the field is just deadly. Countersquall... it's alright, but see if you can find something better, if you have just one, it's not going to be that great.

How many cemetery reapers do you even have? I traded you one, but you said you have 4? Is that a typo?

Other than that, it's great Nick.
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Post  Haatweels on Wed Aug 05, 2009 5:12 pm

Admin Momo wrote:Nick, you're doing really well, it is pretty good so far, HOWEVER, you have too many useless not-creature cards. Gtfo with Duress and Mind Funeral. I have another Blood Cultist if you want it. Having more than one Blood Cultist on the field is just deadly. Countersquall... it's alright, but see if you can find something better, if you have just one, it's not going to be that great.

How many cemetery reapers do you even have? I traded you one, but you said you have 4? Is that a typo?

Other than that, it's great Nick.

Personally I disagree with Mind Funeral comment, but Mo's dead on on a lot of it. Pingers like Viscera and Blood Cultists are always good for a deck like this. If you can get enough, you can pretty much ping to death anything he throws. That supported by a Unx based Mill or a strong Reaver or Thoctar -based rush and you can lock down a good amount of games. However, I think you should keep Duress and Mind Funeral (if you don't mind taking the risk.) At worst, Mind Funeral kills 4 lands off their deck, thus making mana lock a more brutal tactic yet. For 12 Mana (4 Funerals), you can pretty much wreck their entire deck. That combine with Arch Lord and maybe a few tome scours can make an excellent alt win strategy. Plus, Zombies are great regenerators and chumpers, allowing you to do that. I like the 4 Grimblades =) Good defense and good early game offense. May I suggest a few Deathmarks just for sideboard? Also, since you're using black as well -1 Cancel, -1 Disentomb, +1 or 2 Soul Manipulation

And since you have a good variety of cards, if you only add one Soul Manipulation, add another tutor so you can fetch what you need.

Good list =D

Edit: I think he meant to put x4 Grimblade on his previous list
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